JUL 1986 - #9 +-------------------------------------------+ <<-----<>----->> | | | L OOOO OOOO PPPPP | A LOOP FAMILY | L O O O O P P | INTEREST GROUP | L O O O O P P | NEWSLETTER | THE L O O O O PPPPP | | L O O O O P | <<-----<>----->> | L O O O O P | | LLLLL OOOO OOOO P | Victor L. Bennison | | 2 Georgetown Drive | SSSS CCCC OOOO OOOO PPPPP | Amherst, NH 03031 | S C O O O O P P | | S C O O O O P P | <<-----<>----->> | SSS C O O O O PPPPP | | S C O O O O P | 4 issues yearly | S C O O O O P | January, April, | SSSS CCCC OOOO OOOO P | July, October | | +-------------------------------------------+ <<-----<>----->> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDITOR'S NOTE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks again for your continued support. Most of last years subscribers have decided to renew and we have one or two new subscribers. (c) Victor L. Bennison, 1986 ****************************** ARTICLE ********************************* Autobiography of H. Enzo Loop (Continued) [excerpted and edited by Victor L. Bennison from a copy of the original manuscript submitted by Bess (Loop) Olson.] I remember only a few things about my early school days. I started to school with brother Dan as teacher. He taught in our school district for two or three years. At one time all of my brothers and sisters except the youngest, Christopher, were in school to him. I remember I would stay after school so I could walk home with him. It would be so muddy certain times of the year so we could not walk in the road, so where possible we would climb over the fences and walk in the meadows. I also remember his spelling classes. We would all line up in one of the aisles. Dan would give us a word as he started each day. He would give it to the one who stood at the head of the line. As soon as it was spelled correctly the one who spelled it would take the place of the one who missed it first. If Dan ever offered any prizes in school, and he often did, and any of his many brothers or sisters won one, he would not give it to them but would give it to the next in line and then give it to us after he got home. I should tell you how Dan took care of Hayes once after Hayes had defied him. Hayes ran out of the school house and Dan right behind him. Hayes, to avoid Dan, jumped into a creek that ran by the school grounds and Dan jumped right in after him. Both came into the school house dripping wet. Now as to my other teachers. They nearly all boarded with mother. Our school term was only four months. We lived in Eldred township, but I also went to school in Otto township. Dan taught in three different townships; one over by Grandpa Keyes' and one up by Uncle Addison Loop's. Finally my favorite teacher, Alice Holcomb, told mother that it was foolish to send me to the country schools any more so she made arrangements for me to go to Eldred High School. Sister Martie drove sister Maude and I to Eldred the first year. She was driving us one day and the mud was so thick that our only horse Old Bess could not pull us and laid down in the mud and died. Maude and I walked the rest of the way and left Martie in the road with the dead horse. The brother of Martie's future husband came along and went back and got Archie to come and haul Old Bess out of the road and bury her. Martie years afterward married Everett Pepper and the fellow who helped her was Everett's brother Ben. The next year I drove my colt. Grandpa Keyes, who was always very kind to me, gave me a "cart." This was a two wheeled affair that was used in racing. I had a "cutter" for the snow which in Pennsylvania lasted for two or three months. There were no automobiles at that time so the roads were never cleared of snow as people who travelled used sleighs. I kept the colt in the barn of one of my old teacher's parents. This teacher, Sadie Marsh, had boarded with mother. In April of the second year at Eldred, mother received word from the folks out in Washington that they were ready for us to come. I have always given brother Dan the credit for our move. This was in April of 1898. This was my birth month. When I came west I went directly to the home in Whatcom county near Mt. Baker that father and the boys had prepared for us. I arrived in Arpil and stayed on the old ranch until September when father took me to Whatcom (now Bellingham) to register. I shall never forget it as I was scared crazy. We met Anna Graham who afterwards became my favorite and ideal teacher. She gave me a short test in algebra. I still recall her surprise at the accurace and speed with which I did the test. She then gave me an entrance card and put me in the sophomore class. I graduated in June of 1901. I came to be a star on the football team. "Johnny" Lee, as we called him, was principal. We used to change to our football gear in our own home. I recall one day after school he asked me if he could walk home with me and meet my parents. On the way he asked me to sort of keep the football team in line. You can imagine just how I felt. Now I was ready to enter Whatcom Normal School (now Western Washington College). I went one year. At that time you could take a certificate to teach in two years. This I did. This is all the schooling I have had. In fact, I have had no college work whatever. During my school days I lived with my mother for whom Dan and Bruce had bought a home on "D" street in Whatcom. Mother had moved down to Whatcom on purpose to put Maude, Martie, Chris, Harvey and me in school. She never could persuade Harvey to go to school. He worked in a grocery store and finally a jewelry store. I do not know whether he helped mother or not but Bruce lived with her also and always helped her. For awhile Archie teamed around selling firewood, as everybody at that time in Whatcom burned wood or coal. He always also paid board. Hayes for awhile cut wood. I used to cut on weekends and sometimes evenings. Archie went up to the ranch and brought a couple of cows down to Whatcom for mother. They ran wild around town and I would hunt them mornings and evenings and milk them. Mother would sell the milk and Maude, Martie or I would deliver it. Then every summer I worked at something. Brother Dan would get me work in shingle mills which were scattered all over the country at this time. Dan, Archie, and even Bruce and Harvey where what we would call "shingle weavers." Dan was a "knee bolter." That is, he would take the block of cedar either from the shingle bolt or from the drag saw (in the larger mills) and cut off the sap so that the shingle machine could take it and make it into an unfinished shingle... For a good many summers Dan would get me a job in the mills. One summer I drove a pack train into the Mt. Baker so called gold fields. When we came to Washington we arrived just at the time of the "gold rush" in the Mt. Baker district. The first summer I came Dan started a pack train into the gold fields. I was not part of it but Archie was. When the weather permitted the next spring Dan and Harvey ran the pack train again. Then he sold the train to a Mr. McDonald. He wanted an experienced driver to work the train. Harvey did not want to go, so he sent me in his place. After I started teaching for good, Dan had left the "shingle weaving" because of an accident on the upright maching. He lost all the fingers on his left hand. By this time father had gone to the old soldiers home and we boys and girls signed away any rights we had to the old ome and Dan took it over. By this time the children had all finished school. Mother went back to the old ranch to help Dan. So when summer came I would go and help Dan on the old ranch. [Earlier,] when I had just left Whatcom Normal School with a teacher's Elementary School certificate ... I went up to the old ranch. Father was living there alone that particular year. He got me a county job loading gravel from the river bed and spreading it on the roads. One day while I was on the job father got a letter from the normal school which contained a contract for me to teach at Eastsound in San Juan County. I can remember as though it was yesterday as he came down the road to give me that letter. I threw down my shovel and went back to the house with him. As soon as school was ready to start in Eastsound I took a boat from Whatcom to Eastsound. When I got there the other teacher had not arrived. When she did arrive it was none other then Bessie Boyer (and how my life was certainly changed). If I remember correctly I arrived on Saturday and found the schoolhouse in a miserable condition. The doors were wide open and cattle had certainly been there. I borrowed a shovel from the hotel and shoveled, hosed and scrubbed it as clean as I could. I boarded at the hotel for a few weeks and then went to board with Mrs. Ed King. Bessie Boyer also was boarding there. There were only two rooms in the old school house and it was crowded at that. I told the school board that they needed more room. The next year they built a nice new four room building. I made many true friends at Eastsound, but the truest of all was Bessie Boyer. When I left Eastsound [after three years] I had the promise that she would be mine for life. I had made up my mind that I would go to Business College and try to find something a little different than teaching. I went to Tacoma with Bessie where she had finished high school. Her mother was living there at the time. Mrs. Boyer agreed that I could stay with her and attend the Beutel Business College. Bessie was to have a position in Puyallup the coming year. I enrolled at the college and went through the bookkeeping fine. I also took Gregg shorthand and typewriting. I had no trouble with any of the work. I was simply staying with it until the Business College could find me a position. So when H. B. Dewey sent for me I thought he had some sort of a position for me. But instead he told me that he had a dear friend, a Mr. Layhue who was superintendent of the Puyallup schools. A principal of one of the schools was having trouble. He had completely lost control of the boys. Bessie was teaching at the Maplewood building, which was the school in question. I took the street car out to Puyallup with Bessie as she was going to her work there. Supt. Layhue was in his office waiting for me. I never had a man before or since this time look me up an down as he did. He actually made me shudder. "How old are you?" I told him I was 25. "Do you mean to tell me that a man of your age [can control] these boys who have run Mr. Sherman out?" I answered: "I don not know Mr. Sherman or the boys who turned the trick. But I AM telling you that if I should undertake your position I would fill it. There is not the least doubt in my mind. But, Supt. Layhue, please excuse me, I am not here asking for a position. I am here only because Mr. Dewey asked me to come." ... I left Supt. Layhue's office ... [Later] Mr. Dewey said to me: "Mr. Loop, if you will help my friend out during the rest of this term of school I will promise you a good position in business. The next thing I knew Supt. Layhue was at the Business College. He explained that he was sure that I had misunderstood him. He said he wanted to test me, that he had, and would I please take the position. Because Bessie was at this building and because of Mr. Dewey's promise, I told him that I would. This was the real turning point of my life. Supt. Layhue turned out to be the closest and dearest friend. He did more for me than any other man ever has done. I had the best of luck at Maplewood grade school after a "shakey" start. I more than satisfied Supt. Layhue that I could handle his trouble. He begged me to coach the High School football team and teach mathematics in the high school. I took over the football coaching and taught algebra and geometry. This was the school year of 1906-7. On December 20, 1907, Bessie and I were married. We were married at her home which was in Puyallup where her mother moved when Bessie and I had both planned to teach there. She had another daughter, Edna, who was a bookkeeper at Carbonda. When Bessie and I moved into a small new home her mother went to live with Edna. For the school year of 1907-8 Supt. Layhue asked me to take the principalship of the high school. I did. Now it was at this time that the man who was responsible for me being in Puyallup was elected State Superintendent. This was H. B. Dewey. He asked Supt. Layhue to be his chief deputy. This left me to take care of the Puyallup Schools for the latter part of the school year as acting superintendent. Supt. Layhue tried to persuade the school board to give me the superintendency. The board thought I was too young. They never questioned my credentials, of which I had none. But my dear old friend Supt. Layhue was not satisfied. He vowed that he would get me something where I could make a name for myself. He was in a good position now to do this, and in due time located Shelton for me. I got word from Supt. Layhue that I was to go over to Shelton and meet with the school board. I had to take a boat at the Tacoma dock, go down to Olympia, and then transfer out in the water to a boat out of Olympia for Shelton. Eli Robinson met me at the Shelton Hotel. He took me (walking) to Mrs. Mark Reed's home where the board was to meet. Mr. Eaton was the other member of the board. I could readily see that they had no idea of school work. I could also see that Mr. Robinson and Mr. Eaton were mere figureheads and that Mrs. Reed was the board. I was somewhat discouraged with Shelton at this stage of the game. I had walked up through the mud from the dock. There were four saloons in the place. So I tried to stall the board and said to them, "Now that you have met me, why don't you let me go home and you discuss me as a board without my presence". But no dice. Mrs. Reed insisted that Mr. Robinson the clerk make out the contracts and have me sign them at once. This was done. My first duty was to get the high school accredited. Supt. Layhue and Mr. Dewey both told me they would see to that. I also needed some authority to teach as, you will recall, I only held a two year Elementary Certificate. This Supt. Layhue took care of, so today I hold a life certificate. I never questioned how he did it, but he did. [the rest of the autobiography contains a few more details of getting Shelton High School started, and how he took a summer course at the University of Washington. It mentions that his first boy was born September 23, 1909. It looks as if he had planned to continue it, but that is all there is.] +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ VITAL DATA +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. History of Saratoga County, NY, 1878, p. 398: Havillah J. Loop, private, Co. F. 115th NY INf. enl. 1862, captured at Olustee, Fla.; was exchanged, but was unable to again enter upon active service, disch. with the regiment, lives in Troy. 2. Washington County Obituaries, microfilm at New York State Library, Albany, NY: Joseph Loop died at his house in Troy Tuesday of last week aged 67 years. He at one time owned and kept the Hotel now kept by R. F. Cowan at Middle Falls, and sold the same to Robert Hamilton, and removed with his family to Troy over twenty years ago, where he has since resided. He is survived by his two sons George and Bailey. George is a printer and is employed in A. Mekin's job office in Troy. 5 Mch 1891. 3. DAR Cemetery Records, Vol. 28, p. 189: Gurney Lane Cemetery, near Glen Falls, Warren Co., NY: Loop, Sidney B. Priv. Co. E 169 Reg. NY Vol D. died 1910 age 17 yrs [this must be 67 or 77 yrs] 4. Vital Records of Chenango, NY, Before 1880: p. 41: 1850 Mortality, Town of Columbus, June 1, 1849 to June 1, 1850 Susan A. Loop age 7 born NY died Sept [1849] Ceba Loop age 1 born NY died Sept [1849] p. 114: Births, Guildford: June 3, 1848 Seba son of William H. & Deborah D. Loop p. 119: Deaths registered in year 1849, Town of Guilford: Sept Susan Loop age 3 of Dysentery Sept Seba Loop age 1 of Dysentery 5. Here is my survey of the Loop Hollow Cemetery near Eldred, PA: +----------- Loop Hollow Cemetery ------------------+ | | | | | a b c d e | | | | | | f g | | | | h i j k | | | | l m n | | | | o p q | | | | r | | | +---------------------------------------------------+ a. (large vertical slab saying simply "LOOP") b. (very large monument saying simply "LOOP") c. (small stone saying "MOTHER") d. Olive, wife of James H. Campbell d. July 12, 1888, Aged 71 years. e. (obelisk) Riverious Loop born Jan 12, 1806, died May 4, 1879 Mary Ann his wife born May 6, 1812 died Feb 24 [or 21], 1876 f. (obelisk, I think) Henry Loop died Dec 11, 1889, aged 56 years. g. Our Darling Florance Loop, Budded on Earth To Bloom in Heaven Florance A. Loop daughter of Miles and Malissa Loop died Feb 13, 1875 aged 3 years, 10 mos and 17 days h. (footstone saying "Aby") i. Aby Frost born Feb 22, 1824 died Dec 10, 1889 [or 1883] j. Miles Loop 1837 - 1903 E. Bell daughter 1872 - 1903 [it's possible I copied the same date twice] k. Martha J. wife of Butler Loop died March 6, 1872 aged 17 years l. (small stone, may have said "Loop", marked with GAR marker) m. Francis M. son of Z. and J. Loop born June [Jan?] 11, 1875 died Dec 16, 1903 n. John H. Loop, NY Vol. Priv. Co. A. 194 Reg. Inf. died Sept 13 [or 11], 1905 (GAR marker with flag) o. (small stones saying "Father", "HBL", "AHL") p. (obelisk) John Loop born Jan 26, 1802 died Aug 4, 1886 Eliza Hooker his wife born May 22, 1809 [death not indicated] q. (obelisk) Arthur Loop born June [or Jan] 22, 1831 [or 1834] died Jan 24, 1887 Arthur H. Loop born June 13, 1855 died Mar 12, 1877 H. B. Loop born July 16, 1857 died Mar 30, 1871 Annis M. Loop born Dec 21, 1860 died May 13, 1868 r. Fernando C. Loop, Co. H 58 Pa Vol 1st Inf (GAR marker) 6. Inscriptions in Glenwood Cemetery, Afton, NY: G. H. Loop 1820 - 1910 Harriet A. Merrell, his wife 1828 - 1897 [small stones] HAL OEL HML 7. Inscriptions in Haskell Flats Cemetery, Hinsdale, NY: Lusina daughter of Daniel and Polly Loop died [Jul?] 15, 1872 aged [3?] years [????] of Rodulphus and [????] died [?] 13, 1857 aged 1 year ... Several totally unreadable stones nearby, could be Loops. ?????????????????????????????? QUERIES ????????????????????????????????? Please send responses to queries to the Loop Scoop. I will relay them to the person asking the question. 1. Henry H. Loop was born in New York between 1827 and 1836. He does not show up in Chautauqua County until the 1855 census of that county. There he is listed as the adopted son of Nicolas Thum and his county of birth is listed as unknown. He married Luana Marsh and lived in Chautauqua County until his death in 1911. On his death certificate his father is listed as John Loop. No mother is listed. Questions: Where was he born? Who were his parents? - Vick Bennison 2. Family info indicates father of Peter H. Loop b. 1766/7 d. 1855 Sandusky Co., OH, was Peter Loop Sr. b. 1743 Schoharie, NY, d. 1843 Woodstock, IL. Other info places Peter H. as the son of Ensign Henry Loop. Has anyone found records of a Schoharie NY Peter Loop, of a Peter Loop dying or buried at Woodstock (McHenry County) IL, or a marriage record of Ensign Henry's son Peter? My Peter Loop married Rebecca Gilbert, supposedly in 1790 at Schoharie, NY, and his tombstone has Peter Loop, JR. 1766 - 1855. - Joanne Ellis 3. I am seeking the parents of Jane Loop who married Jonathan Andrus (Andrews) of New York. Their child, Polly Andrews, born 3 APR 1791, died 17 DEC 1872 at Windsor, NY, she having married Ezra Barton on 28 NOV 1808 in Broome County, NY. Is there proof that she is the daughter of Peter Loop and Couysa Springer? - Dee Merritt 4. Who were the parents of Almond Loop, where and when were they born? Did he have any brothers and sisters? Almond was born 27 FEB 1828, in New York State, where? He was married in Bradford, Penn., to Mary Melissa Moore, 22 JAN 1850. They lived in Penn., until 1865 when they moved to Manchester, Iowa. He died 27 JUN 1912. I would like to know the parents of Mary Moore, where and when they were born. Mary was born in Jamestown, New York, 6 JAN 1836 and died 23 OCT 1901 in Iowa. - Vola Carter +++++++++++++++++++++++ NOTES AND ANNOUNCEMENTS +++++++++++++++++++++++ 1. Janet Loop announces: FOR SALE "Descendants of Dr. David Loop" compiled by Lloyd M. and Janet G. Loop. 230 pages. Bound. All information footnoted. Most lines brought to present day. Cost: $25 includes postage and handling ($22.50 for book and $2.50 postage and handling.) First printing - 70 copies available. 35 pages of late additions included with book. "Descendants of Richard Henry Loop" compiled by Lloyd M. and Janet G. Loop. 150 pages. Bound. All information footnoted. First printing - 50 copies available. Cost: $20 includes postage and handling. ($18 for book and $2 for postage and handling.) Will sent late additions as they arrive at no further cost. (Still awaiting records from Washington State on Riverius lines to present day.) Richard Henry was from Alburg, VT. Prepaid orders only to: Janet G. Loop, C.G.R.S., 3329 Glasco Turnpike, Saugerties, NY 12477 2. Joanne Ellis writes: I'm beginning to give up hope of getting a response from a man in Flint, MI, who apparently connects in with Benjamin Loop of the Canadian Loops. I was told he is an officer in the Flint Gen. Soc... Joanne: Would you mind too much letting us know the man's name and address? I'd like to write him myself. Thanks. 3. I recently made a side-trip to McKean County, PA, to look for Loops. I visited the Loop Hollow Cemetery near Eldred. I talked briefly with the woman who now owns the "Big Loop", which is the name of the Loop homestead. She now runs it as a horse riding farm for handicapped children. She is renovating it and it looks like it will be beautiful when it is done. The Loop Hollow Cemetery is on the property, surrounded by horse pastures. I surveyed the cemetery (see the Vital Data section above), righted a couple of fallen stones, and I even probed around with a short stake to see if I could locate any stones which had fallen over and were just beneath the surface (I found none). I then decided to look up Fred Loop who lives in Eldred. Unfortunately, I caught him as he was driving off in a car on his way to Pittsburgh. I understand Fred suffered a heart attack this year. Fred, I know I speak for all the subscribers in wishing you a complete and prompt recovery. On my way out of town I passed the mailbox of Milford Loop, so I stopped and chatted with his daughter, Virginia Huffman who is living in the house now. I made copies of some photos which are reproduced in this issue. Two of the photos were published before, but my new copies are of better quality. She gave me directions to the Cook Cemetery which is not far from the Loop Hollow Cemetery. As there are Loops buried there I decided to visit it. I never found it. It is up a hill in some woods behind a farm. But even though I got directions from two different people in nearby houses, I just couldn't find it in the dense brush. I'll try again some other time. If anyone else is successful in finding it, please copy down all the Loop information from the stones. 4. On a recent business trip I took time to visit the town historian of Stillwater, NY, to see if she had any information on Loops. She had none. On the same trip I spent a day researching in the State Library in Albany, NY. 5. Marilyn Loop, and other descendants of George Loop born in Westmoreland County, PA: I found an index of cemeteries in Westmoreland County. The index is terse, to say the least. Some, if not all, of the Loops listed, particularly those in Sewickley Township, may be the descendants of that other group of Loops in Westmoreland County, but it's worth checking. Why don't you write the county historian and include the list below, asking if they can help you find the actual inscriptions: Family Name Cemetery Township ----------- -------- -------- Vol. 1 Loop Olive Branch Rostraver Loop Mars Hill Sewickley Loop Sewickley Sewickley Loor [?] St. Clair Greenburg Vol. 2 Loop Seanors ?? Loop West Newton West Newton Burrough 6. Karen Campola: You ask if it would be all right for you to index the Loop Scoop. There are several problems with indexing the Scoop as it exists. You have mentioned the problem of no page numbers. I don't plan to start numbering pages. Also, I have sent out the first volume in two different versions: 1) the 4 separate issues, and 2) a combined volume. If you try to index the individual family group sheets, they are being constantly updated. I am beginning to make plans to organize all the information we've gathered into more of a book format. I don't think you should attempt an index until then. But feel free to do whatever you think is most worthwhile. It could happen that I'll never get around to these changes. 7. Debra (Loop) Maier sent in a copy of the May 19, 1986 New Yorker article about the recovery and identification of the bodies of the 22 men who died when their B-24 bomber crashed in New Guinea during World War II. The bodies weren't recovered until 1982, shortly after the crash site was discovered. Among the dead was Carlin E. Loop, Larry Loop's father. The article is long and and mostly concerned with identification techniques. 8. George Capes: I notice in the Bible record of Martin Loop the entry My brother Martinus died 11 Dec 1772, Dec 13 1772 buried in Clermont. Now since this is Martin's Bible, and Martin himself didn't die until 1786, then who is this Martin who died in 1772? I have two guesses: 1) It's Martin Cooper, his brother-in-law (sister's husband), though we don't have any good proof that Martin Cooper was his brother-in-law (I suspect he was). 2) The Bible transcription is misleading and is trying to say that "My brother" meant "Martin's brother" and that the Bible didn't indicate the name. That would make the most likely candidate Martin's brother Sebastian. Do you have any information that contradicts or supports either 1) or 2)?